Q701 vs DT880

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Q701 vs DT880

Post by grevillea » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:53 am

OK, I'm not going to throw in DT250 etc - lets keep this simple. Both will need amplification, Marcus' current prices seem to put them within $10 of one another, and I *assume* that the DT880 is going to give me more bass thump. Over to you, friends. :D
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Marcus » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:06 am

AKG - wider (but more "stretched" sounding) soundstage, leaner bass, smoother treble.
Beyer - more prominent bass (yet still very well defined and accurate), soundstage tends to place instruments in their own spaces a little better (if that makes sense, it's hard to explain).

The 880 is more comfortable.

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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by grevillea » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:20 am

Thanks Marcus - I just like two things about the Q701 - the price vs K701 and the detachable cable ala K702. DT880 is still ahead on points for me.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Drubbing » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:20 am

It really depends on whose sound style you prefer. You've already had an AKG, so you know what you're going to get. I don't *get* the soundstage with this phone (or many others). Everything is super clear, but sounds too far away - and not in a good way.

IMO the Beyer sounds nicer, looks nicer, is more robust looking and more comfortable.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by grevillea » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:33 am

Thanks drubbing, although I dont know that Marcus would necessarily agree that there are enough similarities between the 601 and the 70*, but that's water under the bridge. Some complain that the DT880 is too bright, but I don't know of any headphone that pleases all of the people all of the time.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by droenn » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:37 am

These are the two headphones I'm looking at next as well.

Had the DT250 for a while now, not comfortable for long periods (my head is size 63 or something stupid). Switch back to the AD700 quite a bit. Want to upgrade the AD700 to the DT880 probably.

Leaning towards DT880 because the amount of hiphop/electronica/drone/glitch I listen to.

The Q701 would be a better jazz/classical and possibly rock headphone though right?

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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by dc » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:36 pm

depends what you want in your next headphone grev

the highs and mids on the AKG K701/K702/Q701 are superior to me. my bedded in K701 (read: well softened pads) have to my ears the best mids.

the DT880 have better bass and on the current iteration of the DT880 the treble is bearable as well and the mids can be a bit lean I find depending on the tilt of the amp and source

both have good soundstage and detail though I would consider the AKGs to be able to resolve just a bit more detailed whereas the DT880 are a less coloured in the sound balance but also slightly less detailed

although I personally have no issues with my K701, the comfort for the DT880 is hands down ahead of the AKG.

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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by grevillea » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:12 am

Thanks dc - I'm sure you've read a lot of the same criticisms I have about 'unrealistic soundstage' yada yada on the *70* AKGs, but I have to ask myself how long some of those people actually persevered with them. The cracker is the 5 page comparison at Headfonia where Mike spends a hell of a lot of time telling us what is wrong with both K701 and DT880 before pronouncing the HD650 as the best of the 'old school' phones - a lot of it simply comes down to the fact that he doesn't like brightly lit anything. When someone starts a review by telling you what a joke the Grado house sound is, you've pretty much set the stage for a rollercoaster to something darker, so no surprises given that this is the same man who repeatedly proclaims Ray Samuels amps as the best in the universe over gear from Meier and others - again, he cant handle neutrality.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Drubbing » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:47 am

Sounds like he hasn't much of a handle on value for money either.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Blobby » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:31 am

A while back admittedly, but I tried both and chose the DT880. The reason being the more pronounced bass. They do sound very different, with the 701s possibly having the edge on soundstage and more detailed mids but the bass is the main difference. The DT880s also look better IMO and are a lot smaller (although you can't really tell from pictures the 701s are huge).

Overall they're both very detailed sounding headphones and I don't think you can go wrong with either.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Blobby » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:03 am

droenn wrote:......The Q701 would be a better jazz/classical and possibly rock headphone though right?
I'd say it's the other way round. Classical in particular needs a clear bass. But on the other hand if you like jazz/classical/rock or whatever style of music, both headphones will make you like it even more.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by grevillea » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:13 am

Thanks lads - the 880s just look so much more comfortable : at least as comfy as the AD900.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Blobby » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:43 am

They are. At half the size. Can be dangerous. I've almost dragged an amp off the beanch on at least a couple of occassions. Being open with velour pads they're also not sweaty either.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Marcus » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:52 am

I agree that the 701 soundstage isn't "realistic" - but y'know, personal preference is what makes people prefer one headphone over another...
I don't mind the wack soundstage, in fact it's one of the things I find appealing a bout the 701 flavour.
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Re: Q701 vs DT880

Post by Belial » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:13 am

The only downside to the DT880 is that it's *not* good for rock, IMO. The flat/laid back mid-range saps the life out of a lot of rock/metal I find. Excellent for jazz/electronic though. Oh, they're not very forgiving either.

(I haven't heard the 701 so can't comment there).

Edit: in terms of value for money, I would be putting the DT250 back on your list. No amp required, forgiving, fun, great bass. They're liked a closed DT531. They're a much better all-rounder than the 880, though obviously not as technical/accurate or comfortable.

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