YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Quokka » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:53 pm

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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Felix » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:26 pm

OK! My girlfriend has a Rocoo-P so I've done some testing comparing to my Asus STX, with AD900s. Just to give you all an idea since this is a setup I'm so very familiar with

The Rocoo is very forward sounding and warmer than the STX. Quite a strong presence, and damn it has a lot of power. Sound separation and micro-detail is excellent, I even find some sounds are quite a lot more distinct through it over my STX. What is lacking in comparison is soundstage which is far more emphasised on the soundcard. So it sacrifices on some technical aspects of sound but overall this is a very fun sounding player. I'm finding that difference is similar to the Rocoo VS Cowon D2+, where the D2 is more balanced and thin sounding but not as strong/warm (and slightly less detailed)
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Pieface » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:41 pm

Felix...how do you find most budget-midrange portables/IEM's on soundstage anyway?

Is the lack of soundstage a bit of a non event for a portable unles you are spending big $$ on your 'phones anyway?
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Felix » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:54 pm

In my experience they tend to do quite well, though the most important part is overall separation. Soundstage is far more pronounced on a good soundcard but I don't consider it hugely important for most music. The more forward sounding Rocoo does the above song very well because it adds prominence to micro-detail and the bass, and the D2+ does well because it generally has a more ambient sort of soundstage. Lush vs thin, they have their benefits

Edit: Look at me posting on the forums and listening to music / gear in between breaks writing my uni work :cool: workwork
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Pieface » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:19 pm

OK Cool. Hopefully the store will not get sold out straight away when you restock and I can have a listen to the RocooP at some point soon.

I am an impatient bugger so I have Clip + enroute to me but I'm a little intrigued by these Hisound players.
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby GougMan » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:02 am

Felix wrote:In my experience they tend to do quite well, though the most important part is overall separation. Soundstage is far more pronounced on a good soundcard but I don't consider it hugely important for most music. The more forward sounding Rocoo does the above song very well because it adds prominence to micro-detail and the bass, and the D2+ does well because it generally has a more ambient sort of soundstage. Lush vs thin, they have their benefits

Edit: Look at me posting on the forums and listening to music / gear in between breaks writing my uni work :cool: workwork

Would the Studio also have a similar sound difference to the Cowon as the Rocoo does ? And is that with the EQ setting for Dynamic or Armature (I think that's what it's called) ?
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Felix » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:11 pm

EQ is straight out of the box. AFAIK the Studio has the same DAC stage, only the far superior amp stage
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Chrisjlee » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:40 pm

Im thinking of getting the studio but im not sure about the UI. Any chance of you uploading a small video of it marcus?
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby vanderlan » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:26 am

Felix/Marcus

Is there a noticable improvement in sound quality in something like the hisound rocoo over a standard mp3 player using the VSonic R02 Pros? Especially since most of my music library is high bit rate mp3. I dont have much in lossless format.

I love the idea on purely focussing on playing music without fancy UIs, but im a little concerned about how simplistic the UI is, particularly if i want to quickly scroll to different songs etc

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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Marcus » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:30 am

Chrisjlee wrote:Im thinking of getting the studio but im not sure about the UI. Any chance of you uploading a small video of it marcus?


Not something I'm setup for, sorry. If you've used something like the Sansa Clip it's similar, but fairly simplified.


vanderlan wrote:Felix/Marcus

Is there a noticable improvement in sound quality in something like the hisound rocoo over a standard mp3 player using the VSonic R02 Pros? Especially since most of my music library is high bit rate mp3. I dont have much in lossless format.


It depends on the quality of the "standard mp3 player" that you're coming from. If you want a really basic mp3 player that does the job, it might be worth considering the Sansa Clip/Fuse/whatever it is now.

I love the idea on purely focussing on playing music without fancy UIs, but im a little concerned about how simplistic the UI is, particularly if i want to quickly scroll to different songs etc


When I say the interface is basic, I mean it works - it just won't do anything fancy :)
Skipping songs isn't a big deal.
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby BusinessEvolution » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:21 pm

Through the magic of the interwebs. Or something like that

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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby vanderlan » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:59 am

Marcus wrote:
vanderlan wrote:Felix/Marcus

Is there a noticable improvement in sound quality in something like the hisound rocoo over a standard mp3 player using the VSonic R02 Pros? Especially since most of my music library is high bit rate mp3. I dont have much in lossless format.


It depends on the quality of the "standard mp3 player" that you're coming from. If you want a really basic mp3 player that does the job, it might be worth considering the Sansa Clip/Fuse/whatever it is now.

Currently using a Meizu M6SL Miniplayer with my R02 Pros. Ive had my Meizu for around 4 or 5 years now and its been a great player for sound quality for me, however its buttons are starting to fail and its software is prtty buggy.
What i did like about the Meizu was its small size, easiness to use and and good sound. Im thinking that the Sansa Clip or Fuze may be a suitable replacement. Thanks
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Felix » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:54 am

You'll notice a difference for sure. Maybe one of our newer staff members could weigh in with a comparison though, he owns the Vsonic :)
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby cloughie » Sun May 13, 2012 8:49 am

Marcus wrote:It depends on the quality of the "standard mp3 player" that you're coming from. If you want a really basic mp3 player that does the job, it might be worth considering the Sansa Clip/Fuse/whatever it is now.


Is the Rocoo P a significant improvement in sound to the Clip with easy to drive headphones?

It would have to be a decent upgrade for me to give up the convenience of my iProducts, the Clip wasn't over my Shuffle.
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Re: YES, we sell Media Players! Announcing the HiSound

Postby Marcus » Sun May 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Significant with easy to drive models? No, but there is an improvement overall. It's much more noticeable when you start to drive some more demanding models (DT250, K242HD that kind of thing).
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